Saturday, May 18, 2024

CHOOSING THE BEST TOILET PAPER FOR RVS: MYTHS VS. FACTS

 DECATUR TX RV PARK, WISE COUNTY TEXAS

DOUBLE DUTY RANCH RV PARK



Let’s talk about toilet paper – a topic often overlooked until it runs low. However, diving into RV life brings it front and center. Initially, we all do the same: purchase the designated RV toilet paper for our campers to avoid clogs and protect our black tanks, despite its higher ‘RV price.’ This term refers to the markup on household supplies branded for RV use. But then, the revelation hits. We discover that septic-safe toilet paper might be a budget-friendly alternative. Prompted by curiosity, we find ourselves searching for the ‘best toilet paper for RVs’ online.

RV Toilet Paper Wars

Our simple search quickly unveils an overwhelming sea of opinions—too much, perhaps, with intense online debates to boot. On one side, there are RVers who adamantly advocate for RV-specific toilet paper as the only acceptable choice. On the opposite end, a laid-back group believes any regular toilet paper will do.

Off on a trip starting later today and found there’s only a few sheets of RV TP left in the RV. Tested Charmin and the stuff does not dissolve even after 30 seconds of shaking (and we use this for a septic system!)

That’s when the debate intensifies. Entering the fray are RVers who wouldn’t dream of flushing toilet paper down their RV toilets, opting instead to collect it in a wastebasket beside the toilet. It’s quite impressive that the complexities of human nature, something as mundane as toilet paper selection, lead to such fervent discussions. Above all, this reveals how even the topic of toilet paper can stir confusion and controversy among internet strangers.

Even if the toilet tissue for your RV hasn’t crossed your mind much, you might be intrigued by the depth of conflicting views on the matter. In this article, we aim to sift through the mix of information and misinformation swirling around RV toilet paper.

BUSTING COMMON RV TOILET PAPER MYTHS

MYTH #1: ANY TOILET PAPER IS SUITABLE FOR RV USE

You really don’t need “septic safe” TP because you don’t have a septic tank in your RV, you have a holding tank.
There is no need for it to break down like in a septic system. It will all come out when you empty your black tank. Use plenty of water when flushing out the tank.

– An example of the many forms of this mythi on iRV2 Forums

A widespread myth suggests that the type of toilet paper used in an RV doesn’t matter, reasoning that it all ends up flushed into the black tank and then dumped. But here’s the crucial detail: RV toilets flush into a holding tank, not directly into a sewer system. Toilet paper that fails to dissolve into small pieces can cause clumps to accumulate in the black tank. These clumps have the potential of bottlenecking at the drain hole of the tank. Non-dissolving toilet paper can quickly lead to a clogged tank, a situation no one wants to face. It’s clear, then, that not all toilet paper is suitable for RV use—it must dissolve quickly and thoroughly to avoid problems.”

MYTH #2: RV-SPECIFIC TOILET PAPER IS THE ONLY SAFE OPTION

RV toilet paper, typically single-ply, is designed for rapid breakdown when wet, and most brands excel in this regard. However, its thinness means you might end up using more, even though it tends to be less soft and can feel rough. Additionally, RV and boat toilet paper usually cost about twice as much as standard household toilet paper. Finding RV toilet paper can also be a challenge on the road, adding to the inconvenience.

A viable alternative is toilet paper labeled as septic-safe. It’s generally thicker, softer, and more readily available than its RV-specific counterpart. Yet, despite being marketed as quick-dissolving, not all septic-safe toilet papers dissolve faster than regular household types. Caution is key, as dissolving rates can vary significantly.

MYTH #3: SEPTIC SAFE TOILET PAPER WON’T WORK AS WELL AS RV LABELED TOILET PAPER

Contrary to some beliefs, septic-safe toilet paper can be just as effective as RV-specific varieties, though performance varies. To identify the best options for your RV, consider two approaches: consulting with a certified RV technician or conducting your own rapid dissolvability test.

Conduct Your Own Dissolvability Test

Materials Needed:

  • 4-5 medium-sized glass jars with lids
  • Labels or painter’s tape for marking
  • 3 sheets from each of 4 different toilet paper brands
  • Water

Procedure:

  1. Label each jar with the brand you are testing. Trust me, you’ll be glad you labeled them later!
  2. Fill each jar about 2/3 with water.
  3. Put 3 sheets of each brand of toilet paper in the jar with a corresponding label.
  4. Swirl the jar a little. Don’t shake because the idea is to simulate what would happen to the toilet paper in your holding tank.
  5. Since toilet paper usually sits in the holding tank for days before the black tank is flushed, we’re going to simulate that. So just let all of the jars rest for 24 hours.
  6. Afterward, give each jar a gentle swirl. Observe and record which brands dissolved completely and which did not.

At the end of this experiment, you should have at least one or two brands that you can be confident aren’t going to wreak havoc with your RV plumbing.

BRANDS REPORTED TO BE SAFE FOR RVS

Below are some of the more popular RV and household brands of toilet paper to give you a head start.

RAPID-DISSOLVING RV TOILET PAPERS

These toilet papers are specifically designed for RVs and marine systems, offering quick dissolution to prevent clogs and maintain efficient waste management:

  1. Scott Rapid-Dissolving Toilet Paper: Engineered for fast breakdown, making it ideal for RVs, boats, and buses.
  2. Thetford Aqua-Soft Toilet Tissue: A trusted brand in RV accessories, offering toilet tissue that’s friendly to RV and marine systems.
  3. Camco RV & Marine Toilet Paper: Known for its biodegradable properties and quick dissolving capability.
  4. Freedom Living Septic Tank Safe Toilet Tissue: Safe for RVs and marine environments, this toilet paper dissolves quickly to avoid plumbing issues.
  5. Firebelly Outfitters RV Toilet Paper: Biodegradable and designed for rapid dissolution in RV and marine systems.

HOUSEHOLD BRANDS KNOWN TO BE RV-FRIENDLY

Many RVers have found that the household toilet paper brands below work just as well as RV-specific options, dissolving quickly and safely for use in RV sanitation systems. It’s important to note that formulas can change, so if one of the household brands looks good for your family and your wallet, you will want to perform a dissolvability test before using it, even if it’s listed below.

  1. Angel Soft: Offers a soft yet quick-dissolving bathroom tissue that’s been recognized for its RV compatibility.
  2. Kirkland Signature: Costco’s brand is known for being septic-safe and has been noted by the RV community for its effectiveness in RVs.
  3. Scott (Regular): A widely available brand that offers septic-safe options suitable for RV use.
  4. Seventh Generation: Known for its environmental friendliness and quick dissolution, making it a viable option for RVers.
  5. Great Value: Walmart’s brand provides an affordable, quick-dissolving solution for RV sanitation systems.

CONCLUSION: CHOOSING THE RIGHT TP FOR YOUR RV’S BLACK TANK

Ensuring your RV’s black tank operates smoothly for years involves careful selection of toilet tissue that dissolves quickly. Whether you opt for RV-specific brands or septic-safe alternatives, the key is to avoid products known for poor dissolvability. If uncertainty arises, a straightforward water test can illuminate which brands are safe for your RV, helping you steer clear of potential black tank issues. It’s a simple step towards maintaining peace of mind on your travels.by Lynne Fedorick (RVer & Freelance Writer)

Discover More RV Sanitation Tips: For clear, actionable sanitation advice that simplifies RV maintenance, don’t miss the video below. Dive deeper into expert recommendations to keep your journey smooth and your RV in top condition.


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Friday, May 17, 2024

WHY RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORTS ARE A MUST-HAVE: IMPROVING SANITATION & STABILITY

  DECATUR TX RV PARK, WISE COUNTY TEXAS

DOUBLE DUTY RANCH VALLEY RV PARK

Can you guess the RV accessory that is often left off of “must-have” lists but is, in fact, a must-have? RV sewer supports! Sure, you can live without them, but these simple pieces of RV equipment really do come in handy.

Here are all the reasons you really should invest in an RV sewer hose support, as well as what to look for as you’re shopping for one. 

WHAT IS AN RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORT?

Not even sure what an RV sewer hose support is? Also known as sewer hose ramps, these simple contraptions do exactly what the name suggests: They sit under your RV sewer hose and…well, support it.

WHY AN RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORT IS IMPORTANT

Still not convinced you need an RV sewer hose support? We hear you. Some campers actually do go years without investing in RV sewer hose supports. That said, they do offer some pretty great benefits. 

Here are a few of the reasons you might want to buy a support for your sewer hose.

GET THE HOSE UP OFF THE GROUND

A sewer hose coiled up outside of your camper is a recipe for disaster. Just imagine what might happen if someone were to trip over the thing and dislodge it from where it should be.

Getting the hose up off the ground lowers the risk of someone tripping over it. It also helps keep the outside of the hose free of the mud, dirt, and grass that tends to stick to a hose sitting on the ground for an extended period.

DRAIN TANKS MORE EFFICIENTLY

Yes, your wastewater tanks will manage to drain whether or not you have a support under your sewer hose. That said, they will drain more quickly if you have a support holding the hose at a slight angle all the way to the sewer hookup. It also helps to have a sewer hose support holding the end of the hose at the level of the sewer hookup if it happens to be sticking up out of the ground. 

AVOID SEWER HOSE BUILDUP

You know what happens inside the sewer hose when it’s sitting on the ground? Water sits in there. Unfortunately, this means that any debris in the water will often stick to the sides of the hose. Depending on what exactly the debris is, it can be very difficult to wash off, especially if it’s halfway down the hose where a stream of water from a hose can’t reach easily.

Having a steady incline from your RV to the dump point helps the wastewater flow where it needs to go rather than sticking around inside the hose.

MEET CAMPGROUND REQUIREMENTS

Lastly, it’s important to note that some campgrounds actually require campers to use RV sewer hose supports. In some cases, this is even a city-wide rule, meaning that moving to another campground in the same area may not mean you can go without a hose support, regardless of whether their rules specify it.

Because of this, we recommend buying a sewer hose support now so you have it when you need it. 

WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN AN RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORT

Ready to buy an RV sewer hose support? You might want to know what exactly you should be looking for. In our opinion, there are five important attributes to keep an eye out for when searching for the perfect RV sewer hose support:

  1. Length
  2. Portability
  3. Durability
  4. Functionality
  5. Price

Obviously, you will want to make sure your sewer hose support is long enough for your sewer hose. You will also want something portable enough to fit easily into your storage bay and durable enough to last a long time.

Of course, you will also want something that does its job well without buckling under the weight of the hose or wandering out from under it. Lastly, it’s important to consider the price of any support you buy. 

THE BEST RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORTS

Still not sure where to begin shopping? Not to worry, we’ve done a lot of the work for you already. Below are three of our absolute favorite RV sewer hose supports. Pick and choose from this list and you really can’t go wrong. 

Note: While all of the products below are made by Camco, these recommendations are based on the author’s experience and opinions and were not sponsored by Camco.

CAMCO SIDEWINDER RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORT

A basic yet popular choice, the Camco Sidewinder is easy to find, easy to use, and affordable. We appreciate that it is available in a variety of sizes, making it easy to find exactly what you need. 

We also love the support’s telescoping design, which makes it easy to fold small for storage. This same design also makes the support fairly adjustable, allowing you to choose the right length for each occasion.

Finally, we must mention the awesome carrying handle that holds the support in its folded position and offers users an easy way to hold onto the accessory as they put it away or pull it out to use it. 

PROS

  • Very light
  • Folds for storage
  • Includes a carrying handle
  • Available in various lengths
  • Can be adjusted to suit your needs

CONS

  • Can suffer damage from UV rays
  • Tends to creep closed under the hose
  • Doesn’t stand well on uneven terrain

CAMCO RHINO NESTING RV SEWER HOSE SUPPORT KIT

The Camco Rhino Nesting RV Sewer Hose Support Kit is a tougher option that campers might prefer. Made of durable plastic that can withstand prolonged sun exposure, this RV sewer hose support provides a sturdy base for your sewer hose, even when the ground is less than even. 

Rather than a telescoping design, this support comes in three sections of varying heights. These sections will hold your sewer hose at a slight angle to take advantage of gravity. When it’s time to store the support, simply nest the pieces in one another and use the included strap to hold them together. 

PROS

  • Very durable
  • Stands sturdy, even on uneven terrain
  • Sets up in a snap
  • Pieces nest inside of one another for storage

CONS

  • Limited length available
  • Can’t be adjusted much
  • Higher cost

CAMCO ALUMINUM SEWER HOSE SUPPORT

Finally, there is the Camco Aluminum Sewer Hose Support. This support is made entirely of aluminum, making it the most durable option we’ve found. We’re betting it would last a decade or more. The support stands up nicely on uneven ground, and the included strap system will hold your sewer hose in place. 

This support is similar to the aforementioned Sidewinder in that it has a telescoping design. That said, because it is so sturdy, it never creeps shut the way some plastic telescoping supports will. 

PROS

  • Most durable option
  • Folds for storage
  • Won’t move under the sewer hose
  • Strap system keeps hose from moving

CONS

  • Only comes in a short 6-foot length
  • Is a bit heavy

Hopefully, this guide has given you a better understanding of RV sewer hose supports and helped you find one that is right for your camping style. Go ahead and toss your sewer hose support into the storage bay as soon as it arrives so you’re ready to go camping at the next opportunity!

by Chelsea Gonzales (Full-Time RVer and Freelance Writer)






Thursday, May 16, 2024

HOW TO SPOT A LEMON RV: WARNING SIGNS TO LOOK OUT FOR

  DECATUR TX RV PARK, WISE COUNTY TEXAS

DOUBLE DUTY RANCH RV PARK




UNVEILING THE RED FLAGS: YOUR ESSENTIAL GUIDE TO AVOIDING FAULTY RECREATIONAL VEHICLES

Do you know what to look for to avoid getting stuck with a lemon RV? Buying an RV can be a big financial commitment as well as a time-consuming and stressful experience. Make sure you get the perfect RV by knowing the warning signs of a lemon RV.

It goes without saying that, at some point, you will have problems with any RV you own. It’s an accepted part of RV ownership that some time and money will be lost to repairs. Starting out with a solid RV that’s been well-maintained should be your goal when buying a used one.

Whether you are buying a $5000 RV or a $50,000 RV you want to make sure you aren’t getting someone else’s problems. Although there is no way to guarantee you won’t have any issues with a used RV you certainly can limit at least larger issues.

EXTERIOR SIGNS OF A LEMON RV

When you go to view potential RVs the exterior is the first thing you see and the first place to check for warning signs. Most RV owners take great pride in their rigs, and that should show by looking at the exterior.

A walkaround of the RV in the daylight is best to catch anything suspicious. Some obvious signs to look for are dents, cracks in the fiberglass, and rust or corrosion. Don’t forget to use a flashlight and check the underside of the RV for rust and corrosion as well as damage to the frame and underbelly.

Another important aspect to consider is the condition of the fiberglass, if applicable. When inspecting a fiberglass RV, be sure to closely examine the area surrounding seals and corners for any signs of delamination. The cost of repairing delamination can be quite steep.

During an exterior inspection, it is important not to overlook the roof despite its potential for easy dismissal. If access to the roof is unavailable, acquire a ladder. Neglecting to thoroughly examine the roof could indicate a defective RV, leading to costly repairs. Assess the condition of the roof covering, ensure all seals are intact, and evaluate the structural integrity of the roof.

Inspect the tires upon grounding and assess their overall condition and age. Although all RVs experience tire wear, it does not necessarily indicate a defective vehicle. Replacing multiple tires on a rig can accumulate significant costs. Additionally, inspect the suspension for any damages and ensure that any locations that require lubrication have been serviced.

Be prepared to get under RVs and get a little dirty while doing your inspection. Wear old clothes or bring a tarp so you don’t miss anything!

INTERIOR SIGNS OF A LEMON RV

When entering the RV, use your sense of smell to check for concerning odors. Investigate any moldy or musty smells, as they could indicate a serious problem. While smoke or pet smells may not be as worrisome, they can be challenging to eliminate.

Conduct a comprehensive inspection for indications of water damage, regardless of the presence of moldy or musty odors. Water damage is frequently observed in areas such as beneath counters, around doorways and windows, and on the ceiling. In a lemon RV, mold and water damage can be indicated by discoloration.

While walking, search for soft spots and listen for noises that suggest issues with the wood beneath the floor covering. Discoloration, warping, or loose flooring may indicate significant flooring problems that require extensive renovations.

Another potential issue to look out for is signs of pests. Pests may cause damage to an RV, such as nest-building, droppings, and wire chewing. A general guideline is that if you detect a sign of pests, it is likely that there are additional indications elsewhere.

With the not-so-obvious stuff out of the way, you can check out the furniture and appliances. Furniture and appliances get lots of use in many RVs, and this can show over time. Some wear from normal usage shouldn’t be of concern, but proud RV owners will have the inside of their rigs looking good with everything working.

PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION

Viewing RVs can be exciting as you’re looking at what could be your next rig. There are also some not-so-exciting things to look into as well.

Confirming that the person selling the RV is the owner is priority number one. Before any money changes hands you need to be sure you are dealing with the owner and that they have proof of ownership to hand over to you.

Other things to confirm with the seller are if there is money owed on the RV and if there is a transferable warranty. In the case of a warranty, you may want to confirm with the company offering the warranty that it is indeed transferable.

Not all owners will have maintenance documents. However, many RV owners are meticulous about keeping maintenance documents. This is a great sign that the rig has been taken care of, and you aren’t getting a lemon RV. If there aren’t any maintenance records, you will want to be even more thorough with your inspection!

RED FLAGS TO WATCH OUT FOR

As mentioned, there is no perfect RV, and some issues or required repairs aren’t necessarily red flags. There are some things that should make you think twice about closing a deal.

Good deals are out there, and if you can score one, good for you, but buyer beware! The RV market is still pretty hot, and so it is still a seller’s market. This means prices are going to be on the high side in most cases. With this in mind, if you see a hot deal you should approach it with some caution.

Sellers with guilt stories about why the price is so good or why the sale needs to happen today often aren’t telling the entire story. When questioning them about the RV, listen for inconsistency and information that seems questionable. Sellers should be completely transparent and willing to spend as much time with you as needed.

Meeting with the actual seller is important, and not being able to speak with or meet the registered owner may be a bad sign. Do not accept photos as a way to see the RV in place of physically inspecting the RV yourself. Anyone refusing to let you inspect the RV or only being able to meet quickly is a red flag!

TIPS FOR PROTECTING YOURSELF WHEN BUYING AN RV

Buying an RV can be overwhelming due to the inspection process, all the options, and the excitement you’ll be feeling buying. This is why it’s important to have a plan and be prepared for the buying process.

Before starting to look at RVs, you should know what you want in an RV. You can familiarize yourself with the make and model you are going to view so you have some knowledge of what you’re looking at. Owner’s forums can give some insight into issues with a particular model that you can then watch out for.

When you have your search narrowed down and are prepared to hand over your hard-earned money, having a professional inspection is a good idea. There is obviously a fee involved, but it is worth it not to end up with a lemon RV that costs far more in the long run.

Having a buying plan including what you’re willing to spend to buy and what you’re willing to spend on repairs or renos will keep you on track. Emotional purchases can be costly, which is why you need to be prepared to move on from an RV you may really like.

CONSIDER HIRING A PROFESSIONAL RV INSPECTOR

If you’re feeling uncertain or overwhelmed by the inspection process, it might be worth considering hiring a professional RV inspector. This can be particularly helpful if you’re a first-time buyer or not mechanically inclined. A professional inspector has the expertise to spot potential issues that you might miss.

Professional RV inspectors will conduct a thorough examination of both the interior and exterior of the RV, including the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing systems. They’ll be able to identify signs of wear and tear, damage, or potential problems that could become major issues down the line.

While there is a cost associated with hiring a professional inspector, it could save you money in the long run. If they spot issues, you could use this information to negotiate a lower price, or decide to avoid a potential lemon RV altogether. Plus, the peace of mind knowing that your RV has been thoroughly inspected is often worth the cost.

To find a reputable RV inspector, consider asking for recommendations at local RV dealerships or repair shops, or doing an online search for inspectors in your area. Make sure to check reviews and credentials to ensure you’re hiring a qualified professional. For more information on the benefits of an RV inspection service, check out this helpful article.

CONCLUSION

by Kendall Jennings (Co-Founder of RVSpotDrop, Full-Time RVer)

Purchasing an RV should be an exciting time that you walk away from, confident that you made a smart buy. There are some things that you may miss or had no way to know were wrong. While you shouldn’t be stressed about missing something you should be prepared to do a thorough inspection.

The inspection process can seem time-consuming, especially if you look at multiple RVs. While this can be true, it’s a small price to pay for avoiding a lemon RV. If you are considering multiple RVs, take notes on each one. This can make the decision easier when it comes time to choose one.

Avoiding a lemon RV could be the difference between you beginning a lifelong journey of RVing and just becoming discouraged and missing out on this great pastime.


Wednesday, May 15, 2024

WHAT IS MY RV WORTH?

 


DECATUR TX RV PARK, WISE COUNTY TEXAS
DOUBLE DUTY RANCH RV PARK

VALUING YOUR RV WITH NADA AND OTHER RESOURCES

Are you looking to sell or buy an RV and want to know its true value? Determining the value of your RV can be a challenging task, especially with the wide range of factors that can affect its price. However, there are several resources available that can help you accurately assess the value of your RV and answer the question: How much is my RV worth?

In this post, we will explore how to value your RV using the NADA guide and other valuable resources. Whether you are a seller or a buyer, understanding the true value of an RV is crucial for making informed decisions and getting the best deal possible.

THE NADA GUIDE

The first resource we’ll cover for determining your RV’s value (and the most useful) is the NADA Guide. Let’s take a closer look at what this guide is and how to use it to answer the question, “How much is my RV worth?” 

WHAT IS THE NADA GUIDE?

NADA stands for National Automobile Dealers Association. This is a major trade organization representing, you guessed it, automobile dealers across the nation. They provide resources for dealers (as well as consumers), including a guide to the values of new and used vehicles. 

The NADA Guide has been around since all the way back in 1933 when it was originally published as a magazine. These days, the NADA Guide is found online as a convenient and easy-to-use website. 

A quick note before we continue: while the term “NADA Guide” is still commonly used colloquially, it hasn’t been officially called this for a while now. In 2015, J.D. Power acquired the guide from NADA, and the guide is now hosted on their site with their branding. Despite that, it’s still commonly called the NADA Guide, and we’ll refer to it as such in this article. 

The NADA Guide is a comprehensive resource that helps you determine the value of different vehicles, including RVs. The guide uses actual sales data from dealerships, combining information like local market demand, wholesale prices, and retail market pricing to build a database of price ranges. 


You can get comprehensive knowledge about specific RV models and their specs and pricing using the guide. When calculating your RV’s potential worth, NADA takes into account factors like age, condition, mileage, and optional features. 

HOW TO USE THE NADA GUIDE

Using the NADA Guide to determine how much your RV is worth is easy. 

You can find the NADA Guide by visiting J.D. Power’s website, selecting “Pricing and Values,” and clicking on RVs. Alternatively, you can arrive at this page from the main NADA website and clicking on the resources for consumers. 

Once there, you’ll start by selecting what type of RV you’d like to see with the following options:

  • Travel Trailers/5th Wheels
  • Motorhomes
  • Camping Trailers (referring to trailers like pop-up campers and A-frame campers)
  • Truck Campers
  • Park Models
  • Tow Vehicles

After selecting your RV type, you’ll provide info like make, year, model, and zip code across a few different pages. At this point, you can either select “get base pricing” to see an average price for that make and model, or you can provide mileage and options/add-ons for more specific pricing info. Finally, you’ll receive a range of potential values for your RV, including: 

  • Suggested list price – the approximate value of the RV when new
  • Low retail price – the approximate sale price of a unit with extensive wear and tear
  • Average retail price – the approximate price of a vehicle in average condition that is clean and without glaring defects

You’ll want to consider the condition of your RV and compare it to the descriptions provided by the guide. This will help you determine roughly what the RV’s worth is. If your RV is old and worn, you’re looking at the low end of the range. But if it’s fairly new and in tip-top shape, you can likely get a price toward the high end of the range. 

OTHER VALUABLE RESOURCES

Of course, while the NADA Guide is useful, it’s far from the only resource to determine your RV worth. Let’s take a look at some other valuable resources when valuing your RV. 

ONLINE CLASSIFIEDS AND MARKETPLACES

Online classifieds like Craigslist and marketplaces like RV Trader and eBay can be a huge resource when looking into your RV’s worth. Look for RV listings on these sites that are similar to your RV in terms of make, model, year, and condition. This will help you get an idea of the asking price of RVs similar to yours. 

However, keep in mind that asking price doesn’t always reflect the actual selling price. Be sure to consider a variety of listings, and if looking on a site like eBay, consider following the listing until it sells so you can see the actual selling price. 

RV APPRAISAL SERVICES

Another great option for determining what your RV is worth is using an RV appraisal service. These are professional services with experienced appraisers who will give a thorough assessment of your RV and its condition. Then, they’ll provide you with a highly accurate valuation. 

RV appraisal services have the advantage of being highly accurate. Plus, they take a lot of the guesswork out and make it so you don’t have to compare listings or consider a range of possible prices. 

The biggest downside to RV appraisal services is that, unlike the other options on our list, it will require you to pay a fee. But, this fee is well worth it if a highly accurate valuation is important to you. Plus, for things like insurance or financing, it may be required to have your RV professionally appraised. 

HOW MUCH IS YOUR RV WORTH? WITH THE NADA GUIDE, IT’S EASY TO FIGURE OUT

Valuing your RV is an essential step in the buying and selling process. By utilizing resources such as the NADA Guide, online classifieds, and RV appraisal services, you can gain a better understanding of your RV’s true value.

Remember to consider factors such as age, condition, mileage, and optional features when determining the value. Armed with this knowledge, you can confidently negotiate prices and make informed decisions that align with your RV goals.

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Tuesday, May 14, 2024

How to Save Money Buying a New RV: Tips from an RV Industry Pro

 

DECATUR TX RV PARK, WISE COUNTY TEXAS

DOUBLE DUTY RANCH RV PARK



Looking to save money buying a new RV? As a former RV dealer, I know the ins-and-outs of how a dealer makes a profit. I am also an RV owner, author and seminar presenter who loves to share my knowledge with others on how to best enjoy the RV lifestyle which includes how to save money buying a new RV.

A former RV dealer shares how to save money buying a new RV 

For years, the allure of RV travel has captivated retired seniors, adventure-seekers, and families alike. The freedom to roam, the flexibility to explore remote destinations, and the comfort of a home on wheels have made recreational vehicles (RVs) a popular choice for vacationing and even full-time living. However, the initial cost of purchasing a newer RV can be daunting for many aspiring travelers. Fear not! With a bit of savvy and careful planning, you can navigate the RV market and find ways to save money without compromising on quality or comfort.

How to Buy the RV You Want, at a Price You Love

First, let’s take a look at what you need to know before you sit down to sign paperwork and hand over money.

1. Know What You Need and Want from an RV

Before diving into the market, take some time to assess your needs and wants. Will a motorized or towable RV fit your needs best? If you are a new RV buyer who already owns a pickup truck or SUV capable of towing a travel trailer or fifth wheel, this saves the cost of buying a motorized RV with a “second” engine, and all of the maintenance expense that come with it. Therefore, a travel trailer, fifth wheel, tent trailer or truck camper will be your best choice to save money buying a new RV.

Also consider factors such as the size of your travel party, desired amenities, and intended usage. Are you planning weekend getaways or extended cross-country trips? By having a clear understanding of your requirements, you can narrow down your options and avoid overspending on features you won’t use.

2. Do Your Research

Knowledge is power when it comes to making informed purchasing decisions. Take advantage of online resources, RV forums, and reviews to educate yourself about different RV models, manufacturers, and pricing trends. Pay attention to user experiences, reviews, reliability ratings, and resale values. The more you know, the better equipped you’ll be to spot good deals and negotiate effectively which will help you save money buying a new RV

3. Know the Cost of Purchasing Out-of-State

Keep in mind that most RVs are built in Indiana. You might find a great price from an RV dealer located close to the factory. Sure, you might possibly save money buying a new RV in that area. But if you’re considering it, always calculate whether you will really save any money once you travel there, take delivery, and return home.

Another problem and potential expense of buying an RV out-of-state: where will you have it serviced? Your local dealer is under no obligation to service your new RV under If warranty. You may find yourself traveling far from home to have it serviced. Even if they do agree to service it, you will likely receive an appointment many months in the future, after they have taken care of customers who purchased their RV from the dealership. 

1. Know What You Need and Want from an RV

Before diving into the market, take some time to assess your needs and wants. Will a motorized or towable RV fit your needs best? If you are a new RV buyer who already owns a pickup truck or SUV capable of towing a travel trailer or fifth wheel, this saves the cost of buying a motorized RV with a “second” engine, and all of the maintenance expense that come with it. Therefore, a travel trailer, fifth wheel, tent trailer or truck camper will be your best choice to save money buying a new RV.

Also consider factors such as the size of your travel party, desired amenities, and intended usage. Are you planning weekend getaways or extended cross-country trips? By having a clear understanding of your requirements, you can narrow down your options and avoid overspending on features you won’t use.

2. Do Your Research

Knowledge is power when it comes to making informed purchasing decisions. Take advantage of online resources, RV forums, and reviews to educate yourself about different RV models, manufacturers, and pricing trends. Pay attention to user experiences, reviews, reliability ratings, and resale values. The more you know, the better equipped you’ll be to spot good deals and negotiate effectively which will help you save money buying a new RV

3. Know the Cost of Purchasing Out-of-State

Keep in mind that most RVs are built in Indiana. You might find a great price from an RV dealer located close to the factory. Sure, you might possibly save money buying a new RV in that area. But if you’re considering it, always calculate whether you will really save any money once you travel there, take delivery, and return home.

Another problem and potential expense of buying an RV out-of-state: where will you have it serviced? Your local dealer is under no obligation to service your new RV under If warranty. You may find yourself traveling far from home to have it serviced. Even if they do agree to service it, you will likely receive an appointment many months in the future, after they have taken care of customers who purchased their RV from the dealership.


4. Consider Pre-Owned RVs

While the allure of a brand-new RV is undeniable, don’t overlook the potential savings offered by pre-owned models. Modern RVs are built to last, and many pre-owned units are in excellent condition with low mileage. By opting for a slightly used RV, you can enjoy significant cost savings without sacrificing quality or amenities.

Just be sure to thoroughly inspect any pre-owned unit for signs of wear and tear. If you are not mechanically inclined and don’t understand how RVs operate, I would suggest you hire an RV inspector to scrutinize the unit before committing to purchase.

PRO TIP: Many people bought RVs during the Covid pandemic. Now that things have returned to normal, some discovered RVing wasn’t for them and have returned to flying or cruising. Since they no longer have a need for an RV, they are often willing to sell at steep discounts.  

5. Shop Smart

When it comes time to hit the dealership or browse online listings, approach the shopping process with a critical eye. Don’t be swayed by flashy features or extravagant upgrades that push the price beyond your budget. Instead, focus on finding a model that meets your needs and offers the best value for your money.

Keep an eye out for sales, promotions, and special financing offers that can further sweeten the deal which can save money buying a new RV.

Timing is Everything: Know the Best Time to Buy an RV

Just like any other big-ticket purchase, timing can play a significant role in if you want to save money buying a new RV, or a pre-owned rig from a private party.

Dealerships often offer discounts and incentives at the end of the model year to clear out old inventory. Buying during the off-peak season when demand is lower can also result in better prices.

Keeping an eye on market trends and timing your purchase strategically can lead to substantial savings. Multi-dealer RV shows can also be a good time to negotiate a good price. With multiple dealers competing for your business, you can pit one dealer against the other for the best price.

Don’t like the price one dealer offers? Just walk across the show aisle to another dealer, and ask for a better price.

When the market is soft due to high fuel prices, high interest rates, RV dealers with too much inventory (and aged inventory) can be a great time to score a great deal. This is when RV dealers are most anxious to move aged inventory Their “flooring and curtailment” costs are high, which makes it the time for you to buy and RV.   

Thinking of buying a pre-owned RV? Fall is often the best time to buy and save some money.

There are fewer people looking to buy RVs in the fall. This is often the time when current owners begin to winterize and put their RVs in storage. It is at this time of year that many RV owners ask themselves if they utilized their RVs enough through the spring and summer to justify the expenses of owning, maintaining, and storing their RV. Some decide it’s not worth owning their RV any longer and list it for sale. With few others in the market for an RV in the fall, it is your opportunity to negotiate a great price.

Now let’s review what to do once you’re sitting in the RV sales office. Or, if you’re meeting a private party ready to talk about buying their RV. This information can give you the confidence to know that you aren’t being taken for a ride.

Don’t Feel Pressured to Buy an Extended Warranty

The “protection” of an extended warrant sounds great. But, keep in mind that it is just a service contract covering only specific items. It does not necessarily extend the manufacturer’s warranty that covers practically everything.

Based on my personal experience as a dealer, if you really want to save money buying a new RV, I recommend saying no to the extended warranty offered by the dealer at the time of sale. You can always get one after you buy, before the factory warranty expires.

Use that time to thoroughly research and understand what a service contract is, the cost, deductibles, and what is covered. RV dealers often mark up their cost of a service contract two or three times. This adds considerable profit to the deal for them. In most cases you would be better off putting what a service contract would cost you in an interest-bearing account and drawing from it when you need repairs.

If you still feel the need to purchase a service contract from the dealer you can do so at any time prior to the factory warranty expiration date. You may also want to consider purchasing a service contract directly from a service contract provider. This will save money when buying a new RV.

Don’t Trade in Your RV

Do you currently own an RV and are thinking about trading it in? Don’t, if you want to save money buying a new RV. An RV dealer will never give you the true retail value of your current RV. Remember, they need to make a profit and pay a salesperson when they resell it. While not as convenient as trading it in, you will always do better financially, in the long run by selling it yourself.

Always Explore RV Financing Options

If you’re unable to pay for the RV upfront, don’t despair. There are plenty of financing options available to help you spread the cost over time. Shop around for the best interest rates and loan terms and consider getting pre-approved for financing before you start shopping. A lower interest rate can save you thousands of dollars over the life of the loan which will save money buying a new RV.

Note: The financing offered by the RV dealer may not be the best option. Many RV dealers will raise the interest rate offered by the financial institutions underwriting the loan and share in the profit gained from the inflated interest rate.

Beware of Hidden Costs

When budgeting for your RV purchase, don’t forget to factor in additional expenses such as insurance, taxes, registration fees, storage, and maintenance costs. These hidden costs can add up quickly and eat into your savings if you’re not prepared. Be sure to budget accordingly and leave yourself some wiggle room for unexpected expenses.

Be Ready to Buy When the Opportunity Presents Itself

If you have done your research, you will know a good deal when it presents itself. Have your full or down payment ready. Get your RV financing pre-approved so you will be ready to buy it quickly before someone else does.

Negotiate Like a Pro

The sticker price isn’t set in stone. There’s often room for negotiation, especially in the current world of RV sales. Since MSRP is typically 140% of the dealer’s invoice, don’t hesitate to haggle with the seller or dealership to secure a better deal. Come prepared with research and comparable listings to justify your offer.

Also be certain dealer prep and PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection) are part of the negotiated price. Many RV dealers will add these to the agreed sales price after you sign a sales order to increase their profit margin. Be polite but firm in your negotiations. Don’t be afraid to walk away if the terms aren’t to your liking. 

Two More Considerations Before Buying Your Perfect RV

Doing your homework before buying an RV also extends to your abilities to maintain an RV, and what you hope to get out of owning one. The last two most important things to know about RV purchase include:

DIY Maintenance and Repairs

Owning an RV comes with ongoing maintenance and repair costs. But you don’t have to break the bank every time something goes wrong. Learn to perform minor repairs and maintenance tasks yourself, This can save you a significant amount of money in the long run.

  • Invest in a good set of tools. Educate yourself with online tutorials and RV maintenance resources. And tackle simple repairs yourself with confidence.

Also keep in mind that many motorhome chassis are very specialized. If you don’t possess the skills to maintain or repair one you will be at the mercy of the shops that do. And you will pay accordingly.

Plan for the Long Term

Finally, think about the long-term implications of your RV purchase. While it’s tempting to focus solely on upfront costs, consider factors such as resale value, depreciation, and future upgrades. Choosing a reputable manufacturer with a strong track record can help preserve the value of your purchase over time. Additionally, investing in quality accessories and upgrades can enhance your RV’s functionality and resale appeal when it comes time to sell.

Buying a Newer RV Doesn’t Have to Drain Your Bank Account

With careful planning, research, and smart shopping strategies, you will save money buying a new RV without sacrificing the joy and freedom of RV travel. By knowing what you need, exploring all your options, and negotiating effectively, you can find the RV that fits your budget and your lifestyle. So, what are you waiting for? Hit the open road and start making memories that will last a lifetime!